Текущее время: 10 мар 2026 01:33


Часовой пояс: UTC + 4 часа




Начать новую тему Ответить на тему  [ Сообщений: 11 ] 
Автор Сообщение
 Заголовок сообщения: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 18 окт 2013 02:46 
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 10 янв 2013 02:24
Сообщения: 133
Откуда: Tunis
Город: Tunis
Hi,
I have an issue with Toshiba A200. It works perfectly with adapter but without battery connected.
When battery is plugged in with adapter, no more lights (power and charging led are off) and pushing the button doesn't power laptop.
Battery is now empty but was previously tested on an other Toshiba, as wall as adapter and are all ok.

Main mosfet on power and charging sections are tested ok with ohmmeter.
Noticed that 1st pin of battery connector has 19V,[b] when only adapter is plugged, I guess it must be few volts, in this case.

Any clue, please advice !

Platform : ISKAE LA-3661P Rev : 2-0


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 18 окт 2013 03:15 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
Seems PQ7 is shorted. Or PQ13 is dead. If not - replace EC then.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 00:20 
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 10 янв 2013 02:24
Сообщения: 133
Откуда: Tunis
Город: Tunis
Panasonic писал(а):
Seems PQ7 is shorted. Or PQ13 is dead. If not - replace EC then.

Hi!
Removed PQ7 (which tested ok) but 18.6V remained present at pin1 of battery connector, though battery is unplugged[/b].

P[b]Q11 (tested ok but removed and changed)
and voltages measured at pins are (when battery unplugged ):
Source : 21.6V
Gate : 18.6V
Drain : 18.6V ??? which confirms that PQ11 is "on" while it should be in an "off" state, when battery removed. It's an "enigma" !!!

Any new clue !


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 00:45 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
So what about MB3887 ? Have you changed it? PD14, PD10 ?


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 00:52 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
mohkam писал(а):
Drain : 18.6V ??? which confirms that PQ11 is "on" while it should be in an "off" state, when battery removed. It's an "enigma" !!!

Any new clue !


Actually it`s normal cos the drain is hung.
Ground it by some high ohm resistor for fun.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 18:38 
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 10 янв 2013 02:24
Сообщения: 133
Откуда: Tunis
Город: Tunis
Panasonic писал(а):
So what about MB3887 ? Have you changed it? PD14, PD10 ?



The drain of PQ11 is linked through PD10 to ground. PD10 is tested ok.
Actually on mobo, there's no PD14 but only PD10.

The charging section of the mobo ISKAE LA-3661P Rev : 2-0 is slightly different from the schematic I have which is Rev 0.1.

"Panasonic", if you have the right version of the schematic i.e ISKAE LA-3661P [color=#0000FF][b]Rev : 2-0[/b], I will be thankful to get it.

N.B. MB3887 will be replaced as last solution.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 20:34 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
mohkam писал(а):
The drain of PQ11 is linked through PD10 to ground.

By cathode ?? You are asking why there is 19 volts on pin 1.
Set a high ohm resistor to make sure.
No, I don`t have it.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 окт 2013 22:01 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
mohkam писал(а):
N.B. MB3887 will be replaced as last solution.

What the problem to replace EC and MB3887?
Is there any need to waste your time beating about the bush?
The issue is obvious - EC shuts down the laptop cos is dead itself or some problem with charger - the PWM or components around.
Replacing two main minefields is a saving your precious time, isn`t it?


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 26 окт 2013 17:54 
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 10 янв 2013 02:24
Сообщения: 133
Откуда: Tunis
Город: Tunis
Hi!
Further to my post, and as to isolate the problem, I desoldered one leg of PR63 and found 18.6V on batt+ pin (-INC1 of charging IC), when battery unplugged!

Downloaded datasheet of MB38A125 and concluded that VCC pin and -INC1 are likely to be partially shorted (both are input of Low Input Voltage Detection Bloc [UV Comp]).

After replacing MB39A125 with a recovered one, both power and battery leds light, when battery unplugged. But as soon as battery is connected, battery led goes off but power led remains, a light improvement.
As new Ic is unfortunately not available on our market, Lap was returned to the customer.

I wish to thank you "Panasonic" for your contribution to this post.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 26 окт 2013 18:44 
Аватара пользователя
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 04 май 2012 20:51
Сообщения: 1167
Откуда: Иркутск
Город: Иркутск
mohkam писал(а):
As new Ic is unfortunately not available on our market, Lap was returned to the customer.

I wish to thank you "Panasonic" for your contribution to this post.

So does the Lap powers up finally ?
I head from your private message that all chips on your market are extremely expensive.
Why don`t you sell them by yourself as many masters on our board?
I believe you know the aliexpress.com - chinese global market web sight.
There are many options to buy a lot of good products as well as fake and used.
But if you will be patient and picky you can find your own trusty supplier and have an additional
business which helps you to run your main one.

My pleasure, but there is the "thumb up" button on right side of a message to express an appreciation.
A lot of luck in further repairs and be in touch.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
 Заголовок сообщения: Re: Toshiba A200 wont power up when battery is plugged in.
СообщениеДобавлено: 27 окт 2013 02:00 
Не в сети

Зарегистрирован: 10 янв 2013 02:24
Сообщения: 133
Откуда: Tunis
Город: Tunis
Panasonic писал(а):
mohkam писал(а):
As new Ic is unfortunately not available on our market, Lap was returned to the customer.

I wish to thank you "Panasonic" for your contribution to this post.

So does the Lap powers up finally ?
I head from your private message that all chips on your market are extremely expensive.
Why don`t you sell them by yourself as many masters on our board?
I believe you know the aliexpress.com - chinese global market web sight.
There are many options to buy a lot of good products as well as fake and used.
But if you will be patient and picky you can find your own trusty supplier and have an additional
business which helps you to run your main one.

My pleasure, but there is the "thumb up" button on right side of a message to express an appreciation.
A lot of luck in further repairs and be in touch.


Hi Panasonic !
Finally, lap was returned to customer un-repaired as new MB38A125 charging IC is not available in our market.


Вернуться к началу
 Профиль  
Ответить с цитатой  
Показать сообщения за:  Поле сортировки  
Начать новую тему Ответить на тему  [ Сообщений: 11 ] 


Часовой пояс: UTC + 4 часа


Кто сейчас на конференции

Зарегистрированные пользователи: Google [Bot], Yandex [Bot]


Вы не можете начинать темы
Вы не можете отвечать на сообщения
Вы не можете редактировать свои сообщения
Вы не можете удалять свои сообщения
Вы не можете добавлять вложения

Перейти:  
Создано на основе phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Русская поддержка phpBB